Dizkus

If I write a new module, do I have to under the license make the code available (either charged or free)? Can I just keep it under wraps if I don't want others to have the module?

Just wondered?

Cheers,

Dave Searle

Sure, you can be a greedy capitalist and keep it under wraps.



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Zikula Themes

Just wondered that's all. I couldn't see the point of having to share a module when it'll be of no use to anybody anyway even if it was available. Thanks for the info though.

Nice attitude Maynard

There is nothing that says you have to distribute any code you write. Obviously where ever it's approapriate people are encouraged to make code they write available under the GPL but the choice to make code available (be it GPL or otherwise) is entirely yours as the copyright holder of work.

-Mark

How can you KNOW that what you write will be of no use to ANYONE???
That's a pretty broad statement! Not to be insulting, but very egotistical of you as well !!@#$!!!

Being new to the community, I know I can't say too much yet, but I still have an opinion and here it is.

Why would someone want to be selfish and not give back to the community that gave you your start?? I don't care if you became a guru all on your own, SOMEONE put in place what YOU used to learn and teach yourself!! SOMEONE wrote the code you installed, SOMEONE wrote the FAQ or the other Docs that you read to get an answer when you were stumped.

The success of not just PN or this community, but of anything is to pass on what you learn and not be a selfish pig that sponges off others!

I know it was just a question you asked, and I also know that you have the right to do what you want for the most part, but just had to share what I thought because it irked me to even read a question like that.

My my... such strange reaction for this simple question...

I made about 20 mods for my work that nobody knows anything about because :

1 : Would be useless for everyone except me and the employees at my work. Saying otherwise is useless as I know why and what I've done. The specification of it is mine to know alone.
2 : To keep the exclusivity of those specifications.
3 : Other reasons I don't remember of cause I didn't took my coffee this morning.

Am I a pig ? Probably... Do I care ? Nope... Do I give to this community ? Yes... I do other things that aren't exclusive.

Still... I am a professional in my branch and I know that many if not most of the professional dev do the same in one way or another, in a greater or smaller proportion.

I'm irked... he he !

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I did worse once........ I was payed to do a modification on a mod. The week after, someone else who didn't know what I did, wanted the same thing for free...

I kept my mouth shut cause my client was about to call me for other thing (and the pay was good). I didn't want him to say : "Hey I payed you big for something and you give it for free to everyone else ?"...

:twisted: Niak niak niak... I did this only once but one has to survive in this cruel world.

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Yep sure makes me want to run to your site and pay you to code something.

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I'll charge you a friendly price !

Anyway... point is that although my last reason wasn't necessarily a good one, there are good reasons for keeping some development to ourself.

That's all ! :wink:

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Keeping an edge over the competition for a start...

I've got a few modules on my site that I've written myself... A couple I've given away to other sites, but most I've kept to myself. I've put a lot of hard work into my sites. Why should I let a competing site use my hard work to help boost their sites higher than mine with little-to-no effort?

MMaynard, Why do you care? It's his right to release or not release.

Because it's an open source system that is ENABLING these people to even MAKE these modules.
If you want to code to be secretive and lock everyone else out, go pay thousands for an equivalent CMS that's closed source and be done with it.

My first reply was mostly tongue in cheek, but after some of the replies here it hardened me.. :(

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MMaynard, you may not be considering the entire scope of what some people have done with PostNuke, and why they cannot make everything they do available. For example, I have created a handful of modules. I have create a couple for my community oriented site and a couple professionaly. The community oriented ones I choose not to release to the public, because other community sites have paid me to install the same functionality on their sites. In case there is further business like this for me, I choose to keep the modules to myself for now. Why pass up cash?

The professional ones I have written, are just that. I was contracted to create something extremely specific for a client, and now it is their property to do with as they choose.

Have you considered that not everyone uses PostNuke on the Internet? I know of a handful of government agencies that use it for their Intranet and there are security issues with sharing the source in these instances. So it's simply not possible.

Well I gotta say that after reading quite a few replies, I want to reiterate how I feel. I think I was too brash the first go around, for that I apologize. I still stand firm that when you have something you did, it should be shared. After all, you got where you were by having things shared with you.

Now having said that, I admit I didn't fully think it through. Of course there are going to be instances that it cannot be shared.
Such as what Spire just stated. I can see where it would matter in keeping some things private to possibly keep a bankroll going, or for security. But then you get people like Chestnut, that while they too may have the same point about making money on their skills and knowledge, the way they present it doesn't seem right. I'm not trying to flame anyone here, so don't get bent Chestnut. I'm just saying I don't agree with your approach. It's gonna happen, we all can't agree 100% of the time.

OK, having said that, I want to apologize to dsearle most of all. I did not mean to "beat down" on you for a simple question that you should be respected for asking. I just think that if you did something of value, you would be proud to share it! You can NEVER know if what you have would be of use or value to someone else or not!

Anyway, sorry dsearle and anyone else that I may have ticked off with my first post.

Steve