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wow... I just upgraded to 750 and MAN, did SOMEONE mess up the PostNukeSilver theme.

the logo.gif can't be resized. (why on earth would you force people to have a specific sized logo???)

the center column WILL NOT go 100%. ( the right column pushes everything to the left!)

You CAN"T turn off the right column for the PNphpBB2 module.

Xanthia won't work because some .htaccess file is not in the PostNuke installer. :(

Anyone have a PostNukeSilver fix file or instructions?

1. Sure it can be resized, just edit the template

2. Dont know about this one

3. Yes you can, it's an Xanthia theme, set a module specific template.

4. Yes it will, that htaccess is only required for shortURLs

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Simon

itbegins.co.uk - Zikula Consulting

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HammerHead

1. Sure it can be resized, just edit the template

I did that. Edited
./html/themes/PostNukeSilver/templates/master.htm
and
./html/themes/PostNukeSilver/templates/modules/home.htm

and no effect. it still displays with the old measurments.
(yes, I cleared my browser cache)

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2. Dont know about this one

I played with changing the rsblock.htm to 20% width (instead of 100%) and that helped in some cases, but not all.

Why on earth would someone put two tables next to each other, both specified at 100% and NOT expect the two to fight for space???

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3. Yes you can, it's an Xanthia theme, set a module specific template.

I saw the red error (mentioned in the next question) and decided it was better not to proceed since there may be other problems with the install. (and why on earth is there a WORD document for a help file???? VERY strange "standard".)

clicking "no" in "Display right blocks in articles?" in the settings module has no effect. it still puts the column there, it just doesn't put content in there. And why would it put the column there when viewing the admin module, PNphpBB2 and other modules? This certain option does not seem to work as one would expect. Would you happen to have a hack for this?

I'd like that "Display right blocks in articles?" to control the right column (not just the content) for ALL modules - stories, calendar, PNphpBB2, gallery, admin, everything.

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4. Yes it will, that htaccess is only required for shortURLs

ok, so how do I fix that? Please instruct.
It was not installed with the downloaded files where do I get or how do I make this file?

Thanks for the help.

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(yes, I cleared my browser cache)

Do you have the compile check turned on in Xanthia configuration?

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I saw the red error (mentioned in the next question) and decided it was better not to proceed since there may be other problems with the install

The red error simply says that you can't enable shortURLs without a .htaccess in your site root. This has nothing to do with any other settings.

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clicking "no" in "Display right blocks in articles?" in the settings module has no effect

That's because the settings module refers to articles, i.e news articles, not forums.

The master.htm template used for all pages except the homepage should not have the right column in it. So unless you have the forums set as your homepage, no right blocks should appear.

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ok, so how do I fix that? Please instruct.

You could simply read the documentation...

Take the .htaccess file for the correct extension from the modules/Xanthia/pndocs/shorturls/ folder, and place it in your web root. Then activate shortURLs

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(and why on earth is there a WORD document for a help file???? VERY strange "standard".)

The word doc is an extract from a working copy of a guide I had on my local system some time ago for Xanthia. It's now out of date, and shouldnt be included in the distribtuion.

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Simon

itbegins.co.uk - Zikula Consulting

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HammerHead

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(yes, I cleared my browser cache)

Do you have the compile check turned on in Xanthia configuration?

Here are my settings: (basically not changed since installation)

Use visual block editor [not checked]
Use short URLS Sorry! The .htaccess file supplied with Xanthia is not in your web root. That file has to be in your web root for short URLs to work
Extension to use for short URLs (excluding .) [phtml]
Enable caching [not checked]
Modules to exclude from caching [blank] (Comma-separated)
Check for updated version of templates [not checked]
Force templates recompilation [not checked]
Length of time to cache pages [3600]
Store templates in database [checked]
Use trimwhitespace output filter [not checked]

which one are you referring to?

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I saw the red error (mentioned in the next question) and decided it was better not to proceed since there may be other problems with the install

The red error simply says that you can't enable shortURLs without a .htaccess in your site root. This has nothing to do with any other settings.

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ok, so how do I fix that? Please instruct.

You could simply read the documentation...

Take the .htaccess file for the correct extension from the modules/Xanthia/pndocs/shorturls/ folder, and place it in your web root. Then activate shortURLs

you mean the outdated word document that was included with the stock install?

I downloaded the pn750 earlier this week. the word document is still included.

thanks for the instructions! I'll try that and let you know what happens.

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clicking "no" in "Display right blocks in articles?" in the settings module has no effect

That's because the settings module refers to articles, i.e news articles, not forums.

The master.htm template used for all pages except the homepage should not have the right column in it. So unless you have the forums set as your homepage, no right blocks should appear.

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just for my clarification...

The master.htm template (is) used for all pages except the homepage (and) should not have the right column in it.

Is that what you meant?
or
The master.htm template used for all pages(,) except the homepage(,) should not have the right column in it.

I'm not sure exactly what you are telling me master.htm is supposed to be doing.


Forums are not my homepage and the right column appears on EVERY page throughout the site. ... except on the news stories and then there is space for the column, there's just nothing in the column.

See what I mean:
http://www.hvwc.org/html
click on the news story and on forums, recommend us, downloads, reviews,... anything.

What I would like is that the right column ONLY shows on the home page and nothing else. Is that what you are saying that it's supposed to do? or is the right columns supposed to show on every page... including admin panels and other modules?

Thanks for the help!

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Check for updated version of templates [not checked]

Needs to be checked for you to see changes.

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The master.htm template (is) used for all pages except the homepage (and) should not have the right column in it.

That's what I meant - though re-reading what I said before I can see why you were confused.

You'll need to edit master.htm

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Simon

itbegins.co.uk - Zikula Consulting

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OK, editing master.htm

I changed the logo code to read:

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<td><a href="index.php"><span class="logo"><img src="<!--[$imagepath]-->/logo.gif" alt="<!--[sitename]-->" /></span></a>

no image size specs

I also checked
Check for updated version of templates [checked]
in the Xanthia admin menu

So what do I do to get it to check?
(the site still looks the same...)


On another issue, I also find this code in master.htm:

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<table>
                <tr>
                    <td valign="top">
                        <div class="central-area">
                            <!--[$maincontent]-->
                        </div>
                    </td>
                    <!--[if $rightblocks neq ""]-->
                    <td class="menu-middle-right" valign="top">
                        <!--[$rightblocks]-->
                    </td>
                    <!--[/if]-->
                </tr>
            </table>

Isn't this where all the right column comes from? (rightblocks)

yes and no
It depends on the theme but thus far in my experience this rings true often:
PN theme designers use way too many tables for my liking and many can be deleted with no difference when viewing a page. Maybe it's to be convenient for folks to add stuff in but...I'm crabby tonight
A page is one giant table. Inside that are 3 tables. A header, footer, and main "heart of your site" section.
Each of these are then divided up into more tables.
The heart has leftblocks, 2 or 3 center blocks, space holder or spacing blocks, and some horizontal "why the heck is that there" blocks.
First thing I do is add in some table border HTML tags with colors so I can tell the difference.
border=\"green\" border=3 and border=\"yellow\" border=3 etc. Try that, I bet you find that you deleted a table but it's within another table.
No image size specs makes it go to whatever size it truly is, I believe.
Upload whatever ya want to be there and then rename it logo.gif or just delete that line of code.
If ya delete a line notice whether you're deleting a TD tag or maybe in PHP you need to add a ; to the line before.....take note "structurally" of what you're deleting.
The basics of Xanthia are just a bunch of webpages smushed intogether. Most of the fancy stuff can be ignored. Ya know HTML but don't know Smarty? stick to the HTML with tables and all. Get a working theme in order, then try and learn the fancy stuff and realize the power of Xanthia. My opinion is it needs to be done in steps like this. With Xanthia, I hear terms like legacy(no clue what that is) PNrender(don't really know what that is) and Smarty(am learning this) that I never heard before. It's too confusing to learn em' all at once. Do the HTML get a good base for your site, then learn the rest. I was a rookie a few months ago, hope this helps, hang in there.

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I also checked
Check for updated version of templates [checked]
in the Xanthia admin menu

Clear the cache, tick force recompilation, uncheck 'store templates in the database' and you should see your changes

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Simon

itbegins.co.uk - Zikula Consulting

Please read the Support Guide

HammerHead

Clear the cache, tick force recompilation, uncheck 'store templates in the database' and you should see your changes

I'm assuming by "Clear the cache", you meant in the browser.

out -freakin- standing!

worked like a charm!

Fixed the logo.gif (no size specified)
and I also changed the maincontent/rightblocks so that there IS a width specified (there wasn't any in the stock version as seen above)
I'm not quite satisfied with the layout yet, but I at least know how to effect it. THANKS!!!

However, I am finding that master.htm is what the modules use and modules/home.htm is what the home page is using (see the top nav bar for proof: http://www.hvwc.org )

Now I am assuming that I put UNcheck recompilation and REcheck store templates when i've finished altering it. right?

bri

PN theme designers use way too many tables for my liking and many can be deleted with no difference when viewing a page. Maybe it's to be convenient for folks to add stuff in but...I'm crabby tonight

or you may have something there...

bri

First thing I do is add in some table border HTML tags with colors so I can tell the difference.

trying that now!

bri

No image size specs makes it go to whatever size it truly is, I believe.

definately. I've used this trick for many years in my sites and never had to mess with code when changing out a logo. i just make sure that my art is to the EXACT size that I want it and *poof* it's done.

the PN template writers really should consider this.

bri

Get a working theme in order, then try and learn the fancy stuff and realize the power of Xanthia. My opinion is it needs to be done in steps like this. With Xanthia, I hear terms like legacy(no clue what that is) PNrender(don't really know what that is) and Smarty(am learning this) that I never heard before. It's too confusing to learn em' all at once. Do the HTML get a good base for your site, then learn the rest.

legacy = olsckool method
in other realms that refers to the technology that they have abandoned in favor of the new technology. (I however have no idea what exact tech the PH guys are refering to either.)

Xanthia = last I heard about this was when I started using PN about 2 years ago. At that time it was in pre-release and i figured I had a better chance of learning the PN curve before that went release. I'm just now starting to use pn750 and it's evident that I didn't keep up with the times and so I'm starting over. I like that the main templates are more traditional, but this xanthia-thing is giving me fits.

bri

I was a rookie a few months ago, hope this helps, hang in there.

Thanks for the encouragement!

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However, I am finding that master.htm is what the modules use and modules/home.htm is what the home page is using (see the top nav bar for proof: http://www.hvwc.org )

Now I am assuming that I put UNcheck recompilation and REcheck store templates when i've finished altering it. right?

Yes, all of that is correct, but I would advise you dont check 'store templates in database'

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Simon

itbegins.co.uk - Zikula Consulting

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dont check 'store templates in database'?

interesting.
is this for editing purposes?
or for template caching/download speed reasons?

Store Templates in the database is only useful if you want to be able to edit the templates through the Xanthia admin panel. There should be no speed problem, unless you have 'force recompilation' switched on. But, if you make changes to the templates stored in the database, this won't be reflected in the filesystem, and so you won't get the most up to date version of your templates when downloading the theme.

This might also be removed in future versions, so don't get too attached to it.

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Simon

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I have been getting an error message"Error! Called unknown function: Blocks_user_main()
" since I loaded PNSilver as my theme.Anyone know why?